- I've never quite understood the appeal of ActivityPub.
Looking at the list of goals in the article, the only benefit in addition to what can easily be done with RSS is knowing who follows me. Maybe its just me, but if I'm writing to a blog or a microblog I just don't really care who follows me or even who reads it.
There are more social features built into ActivityPub, likes and shares for example, but at that point I'm likely not running my own server and am trusting a third party to do it for me. The idea that there are multiple hosts I can choose to trust rather than one centralized one feels more like a principled argument than one based on real benefits of, for example, owning my own content or censorship resistance.
- > if I'm writing to a blog or a microblog I just don't really care who follows me or even who reads it.
- if you want to have comments or backtracks, you can do it with ActivityPub without having people signing up to your site (directly or through some OAuth system)
- If you want to mitigate spam, you can set up your AP blog to only accept messages on the inbox from actors who you whitelist.
- You could have your own Substack where you only send the updates to actors who are paying subscribers.
- The OP here specifically wasn't including any auth features, which I was pretty sure would mean backtracks and comments aren't supported but maybe that's wring. It is possible with ActivityPub, but I'd personally be hesitant to run my own OAuth server just for a microblog.
Regardless, my underlying point really is about what I expect of a microblog. If I'm hosting it myself I just want it to be my little corner of the internet, not a full fledged social media site that I have to maintain. That doesn't mean I'm right or that others don't expect more.
- > If I'm hosting it myself I just want it to be my little corner of the internet, not a full fledged social media site that I have to maintain.
I think the problem is that OP is focused on developing a framework for AP, and he is dogfooding it by developing an application that other people can understand without too many new concepts.
This is good if you want people to get experiments, but it is terrible as a way to present the true potential of the protocol: https://cosocial.ca/@evan/113143389340566731
- I used to think running my own server for blog stuff was a waste as well. But it’s incredible what can be done with local mini server running Ubuntu and cloud flare tunnels.
- With the rising VPS costs I'm starting to wonder if it's better to move my VPS in-house(:D). Electricity-wise I might be break-even but I wonder if the bandwidth I get from my ISP will be the same, not that my services are high-traffic anyway.
- Sure, I have a small homelab and use Tailscale for a similar setup to CF tunnels.
That's a bit besides the point though. I'm not saying hosting ActivityPub yourself seems unnecessary, I'm saying that ActivityPub itself seems unnecessary (or at least not worth the costs and overhead).
- ATProto may be more beneficial to integrate, Bluesky seems more active than Mastodon... For blogging, there's WhiteWind:
- I've added ActivityPub to my blog system (https://h4kor.github.io/owl-blogs/) as just another way of subscribing to the blog, but found that it is a good model to support interactions.
- > To simplify the tutorial, we'll impose the following feature constraints:
> There is no search functionality.
This makes sense for the tutorial, but search functionality would be awesome for discovery, both in terms of people finding your blog as well as finding other interesting blogs to follow. Niche blogs seem more difficult to find these days when Google only seems to surface websites with the right keywords.
- Google offers Programmable Search Engine [0], a service where you can create site-specific search box. That's probably good enough for most small personal websites.
- This is interesting, thanks for sharing.
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