And tied to inflation (or to a % of gross income), too, otherwise it'll be cheaper in X years to get fined than to hire information security officers

I presume the database exists, but some of the details don't add up. IDMerit say "IDMERIT’s systems and security infrastructure have never been compromised", "there has never been a data breach or exfiltration from [our partners'] systems during, before, or after this event" and "IDMerit does not own, control or store customer data". But Cybernews says that they "promptly secured the database" after being notified. Cybernews also didn't give the reason why they thought this was to do with IDMerit (unless I missed it). I can't quite make head nor tail of it.

To sum up the updates in the article

  - IDMerit asked the security researcher for proof, the researcher asked for money first, so IDMerit balked
  - IDMerit basically says they have no proof they were hacked, so they weren't
  - The researcher is a freelancer... for CyberNews...

Even if somebody followed up with IDMerit, it's likely they will say they are not affected. The security researcher is probably the only person who could prove whether they were or not vulnerable, at this point. If they don't come forward, we can only assume they weren't vulnerable, but we don't know. This is a good lesson for responsible disclosure in the future.

...also, this is yet another example of why we need a regulated Software Building Code, with penalties for not conforming to it. If somebody is found to be hosting a public Mongo instance with no authentication, it should be reported to a state or federal agency, so that real penalties can be applied, the way they are for other code violations. And they shouldn't have been allowed to launch with that in the first place. It shouldn't be up to random "security researchers" to police businesses.

It's a weird article. For one, the researcher says "they believe" the data belongs to IDMerit but apparently aren't sure. IDMerit denies it's the owner of the data nor is it any of their partners. And there's very few details about where or how they found this database. It's possibly some kind of hoax or ransom attempt? Or there's really just billions of unaccounted databases of private data just sitting all over the Internet.

I bet their data is included too, for two reasons:

First, identity verification data for KYC is a little bit different from fast food or social media in that it's very difficult to live a normal life without being subject to any KYC checks. (I'm sure someone will chime in that they get paid in bitcoin and buy their groceries with cash.) If you are applying for some financial product or service that requires KYC, and they can't find any information about you, you will often either be denied that product or have to jump through a bunch of additional hoops to prove who you are. So it benefits CXOs to have their data included in these datasets, in fact if they are well paid they may well have more activity requiring KYC checks than the average person.

Second, and much more simply, one's own data often makes for a good test case since you know its accuracy.

Or the tech executives barring their children from using social media.

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The 1B number would contain multiple records per person.

For example if I (as a German in Germany, ymmv) open a bank account online that involves a call with one of these companies where they take pictures and information from my passport and check that that's me. Then I choose payment in installments on some online shop, same game. Apply for a small loan? Same game. Set up an account for trading (stock exchange or crypto)? You guessed it, another call. Another payment in installments, backed by the same bank? Apparently verifying my identity again is easier than checking their database. Each of those is another record. Potentially with a new identity document, address or even name (maybe you got married) but mostly just the same data confirmed again with another timestamp

Not all of them use the same identity verification service, but there aren't that many. And I wouldn't be surprised to learn that many are the same company under different brands

A record is not necessarily unique. Name changes, address changes, phone number changes, can all create "new" records in dumps like these.

Makes sense if the ID verification process involves scanning a driver license or passport.

Edit- rereading this, you’re obviously talking about scale. The original article is much better : https://cybernews.com/security/global-data-leak-exposes-bill...

Seems like it deserves to be its own post.

If developers are going to face criminal liability, they should IMHO also have legal ways to push back against certain implementations without risking their jobs, or at least have a way to leave a legal justification somewhere: "I'm doing this because I'm forced to but I disagree" which is then signed by management.

Until then, you're putting the weight of the law on the wrong side of the equation, since developers aren't the ones consciously making risky decisions.

Actual punitive measures taken against entities who e.g. manipulate personal data in a negligent way. [1]

Which was much harder to achieve before.

[1] https://www.enforcementtracker.com/

Right to be forgotten - you can ask companies to delete data they hold on you.

Data ownership/portability : you can ask companies for a copy of all data they hold on you or related to you.

I’ve seen the latter used by job applicants to get an entire copy of their interviews, transcripts and assessments including the reason for not being hired.

It's really a wonder how every time gdpr is even remotely related, there's always gotta be someone complaining about how gdpr is at fault for the cookie/data prompts, and never that sites and advertising companies (and their 2137 partners) are at fault for actually making those prompts as annoying as possible in hopes that you just agree.

It makes you aware a site is selling your data or is otherwise tracking you because otherwise they would not need a banner to request for consents to do so :)

In the UK open banking was essentially a response to GDPR this has allowed (to a limited extent) a variety of tools to be built on top of bank accounts that others would not have been.

Since people still seem to conflate the two, let me say it loud and clear:

GDPR HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE COOKIE PROMPTS!

GDPR doesn't apply in the states, but hopefully it provides for some punishment for the poor security here for EU customers. Of course, then some Americans will get mad that a US company has to follow EU law.

The Fox article just cites CyberNews.[0]

Cybernews posts screenshots[1] featuring usernames like idmKYCCN and idmKYCFR, and the ports were locked down after contacting ID Merit.

I think thay what's happened is that everyone is telling the literal truth and speaking very carefully to use that truth to obscure rather than inform. To hell with the victims. The way I intrerpet this is that their denials are both factually accurate AND misleading.

The partner who said there is "no indication that any customer data has been compromised" is telling the literal truth. They can't find any indicators because they stink at logging and the screenshots posted on CyberNews obscure the customer info intentionally. Instead Cyber News only shows the IDM usernames in plaintext. Which was the responsible thing to do They literally cant see any indications... of customer data... because they dont have logs.

It should also be noted that the Partners customer in this case is likely ID Merit... not the people whose information was stolen. So again, their statement was literally true even if they do find evidence of a billion records being leaked.

Nobody should ever trust anyone involved in this again if I'm correct in this interpretation of the available facts.

[0] https://www.foxnews.com/tech/1-billion-identity-records-expo...

[1] https://cybernews.com/security/global-data-leak-exposes-bill...