44 points by tobr 3 days ago | 11 comments
  • It would be useful to have examples of data and the representation this would result in.

    Although you can go to https://jsoncanvas.org/ itself and see an example rendering, you cannot see the exact data that created it - I think, although you can sort of guess since the element names are stuff like node.

    I sort of doubt this is the best data structure for representing this kind of thing. Maybe I'm wrong though but I would think I would go for something like https://github.com/jsongraph/json-graph-specification which strikes me as closer to graphml which I have some experience with, and maybe give it ability to embed videos etc. (which for all I know someone already has)

    This is all an initial feeling though, like hmm, no I think it's wrong, and maybe I am just not seeing why this would be better than another solution.

    • You can see the data it created. Just click "Toggle output" in the bottom right corner.
      • ah ok, sorry about that. I didn't really look at that part of the UI much, noticed it had some zoom stuff, noticed I couldn't zoom normally and scroll to where I wanted to read, was somewhat miffed.
  • Previously posted in 2022 as Obsidian Canvas before being open sourced in 2024 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34066824
  • I've used canvas quite a bit since it was release in Obsidian. It's good, not great, but the simplicity of the file type opens up a lot of opportunities to build on top of it.
  • I'm not sure about this:

    An "infinite" canvas without some notion of recursion such as viewports feels incomplete.

    • A file node can be a .canvas, so a .canvas can have nested canvases.

      Obsidian's implementation of JSON Canvas supports this.

  • Looks cool. I recently hit some limits with mermaid and this seems a little more flexible.
  • Are pixels really the best way to encode position at this point?
    • I’m playing with 3d positions derived from higher dimensions, right now.
    • Agreed.

      The upside is that it does not leave the most important aspect open to interpretation.

      But it prevents this from being text-only at the point of creation:

      You'll most likely need some programmatic environment to create non-trivial diagrams.

      But then the question is: Why not just an SVG instead?