• bel8
    So DeepSeek v4 will cost 2x between 9:00 to 12:00 and 14:00 to 18:00, Beijing Time.

    This is UTC+8 so to get cheaper DeepSeek:

    - in London (BST / UTC+1): 11:00 to 02:00, and 05:00 to 07:00.

    - in NY (EDT / UTC-4): 06:00 to 21:00, and 00:00 to 02:00.

    - in California (PDT / UTC-7): 03:00 to 18:00, and 21:00 to 23:00.

    Subscription plans like OpenCode Go might not even pass down this 2x cost since most customers are EU/US.

    • > in California (PDT / UTC-7): 03:00 to 18:00, and 21:00 to 23:00.

      I think that’s incorrect. For California (PDT), 2X pricing will be in effect from 6–9pm and 11pm–3am. During PST, the CA windows will be 5–8pm and 10pm–2am.

      • > 2X pricing will be in effect from 6–9pm and 11pm–3am

        that's why cheaper price is 03-18 and 21-23, aka 3am-6pm,9pm-11pm

    • I don't understand, you say that Deepseek will be more expensive for seven hours a day and then give five hours a day where it's cheaper in London.
      • 11:00 to 02:00, and 05:00 to 07:00 is 17 hours right?
        • Ahh I'm very sleep deprived, thanks. Parsed 02:00 as 14:00.
          • I just worked out that that was probably the cause. Hope you're not baking over there.
            • Thanks, I'm trying but it's been pretty hot. You guys have it worse though, I was just in London and it was unbearable. At least AC helps here.
    • That math makes no sense
      • Perhaps you read those western times as being the more expensive time windows? They are the cheaper times. I know it can be confusing.

        But please let me know where my math is wrong.

  • You were NOT the Chosen One! It was said that you would NOT destroy the Sith, BUT join them! Bring balance to the Sheets, not leave it in darkness!
  • For Berlin time (Germany, UTC+2, CEST), the 2x cost period is 03:00 - 06:00, and 08:00 - 12:00.

    08:00 - 12:00 would have really hurt if prices were not ridiculously low to begin with.

  • This announcement also mentioned that they will release the next version (official non preview version) of v4 in mid July.
  • Yall trust LLM providers sweeping up keys and passwords? Sometimes you have a little .env file or config files in your repos that are not checked in... LLMs like to read that stuff and send it in. I don't trust any of the LLM providers, but less so the ones seated in China.
    • Yes, never trust the perfidious chinamen or their evil LLMs. They are on another level of evil than our glorious and noble western LLMs that are used to bomb schools.
  • I have not seen the official deepseek communication to this effect.
    • I got an email from them with this information approximately six hours ago.

      There is also a banner about the price change on their API platform site, at least for me

  • It's business at the end of the day. Don't get surprised if one day DeepSeek does a rug pull too.
  • Content restricted in the UK
    • The same site seems to host cryptocurrency related things, and the UK has a bunch of crypto laws.